The voting pool is too small to work yet so Iāll be erring on the side of getting proposals in until there are enough voters. (Not sure what constitutes enough yet- answers on a postcard!)
I definitely think decentralised control would be a good policy to get in, although concerns about passing āusersā of lamp posts needing to be considered seem valid to me, as well as funding- not everyone will be able to find Ā£5 for something which arguably theyāve already paid the council for. Iām more than happy to leave funding considerations out completely though since itās meant to be an aspirational manifesto. (Anyone who campaigned for any of the policies would have to worry about the money of course!)
Anyway, I still think thereās a really worthwhile policy which I hope goes in.
Ok iāve given it a blast. I feel sure heāll just say no!
RE: Numbers of voters needed, Elon Musk reckons we need 1million humans on mars to be able to re-settle safely. Not sure thatās relevant here mind, just found it interesting.
I think thatās the problem; if your magic number of 100, they could all be from the same biased area. Think thereās a few gaps in the local manifest approach after using it;
People could take part from out of area too easily.
Technical barrier I think limits the solution to github users, or people dedicated enough to learn!
approval problem from such a small group. Somehow needs more seed voters!
People could take part from out of area too easily
Why is that a problem? I donāt mind who takes part, or where they are, although I donāt suppose people out of the area are likely to be interested.
Technical barrier I think limits the solution to github users, or people dedicated enough to learn!
100% agree! Itās a work in progress and it definitely needs to be easier to use. Being able to log in with different IDs would hopefully help. Just need more hours in the day!
Somehow needs more seed voters!
Definitely, which is why for now proposals will get in unless there are stong objections.
Not sure whether it will overcome all the problems but I think itās worth a try. If youāre interested itās based on The OpenPolitics Manifesto but I think that started with a group of people who were all on GitHub, which isnāt exactly representative
I think itās my fear of a gaming thing again. If someone doesnāt like something, it would be easier to find 50 people out-of-area to help me game it than it would find 50 people local.
I did actually have a nosy and a look at this. Love the concept it just needs to be a little more accessible. One day itāll get there iām sure.
Between your manifestoās and open discussion here, maybe we can start putting Eastleigh politics on the map!
Hi @JonDramas, if you mean who gets to vote on manifesto proposals, then thatās whoever has successfully contributed to the manifesto. Anyone can leave a comment though!
If you mean, how do you get people to want to vote, then thatās a trickier question! I think this year will be a big one for local elections as well- at least I hope so! Good ideas and discussions might help get people interested, and spread the word!
Iā,m going to take a look.maybe i can share an idea first to make sure it all makes sense?. i think it is a good idea for local issues and also in making the council up to a standard that they claim they are.
have to say that the labour are doing more which is good so i will look at them at the elections. Im in hedge end as well.
Jon you can make a submission to Eastleigh Labourās local manifesto consultation here: Eastleigh Labourās Local Manifesto Weād love to hear from you!
If the authors of the policies in your opensource manifesto would like to have their ideas included please encourage them to get in touch! Would love to include their ideas for our discussion but donāt want to run with them without permission!
Contributors to the open manifesto have to agree to their edits being public domain, so youāre welcome to use any policies which have been included (grand total of one so far!) - which reminds meā¦ @afdy before I add my vote could you read the license and leave a comment on your proposal if youāre happy with it?
@Josh_Constable To me it would make sense for labour to get more actively involved in this āopen local manifesto for Eastleighā idea for a few reasons:
It gets labours local manifesto ideas publicised more widely, which anyone else (non traditional labour supporters) can get behind.
Even if labour doesnāt get in, Labour can contribute to making Eastleigh better as other people can help push for the good ideas that were raised.
Labour should consider adopting all manifesto ideas in the open source Eastleigh manifesto - if it does, it would be a great stake in the ground for a future āOpen Eastleighā where we all work together on common ideas in an open debatable way, not just internally within a party but externally with voters too.
Its great advertising for Labour also to support more modern approaches to local democracy.
I like it as anyone can get involved, regardless of party affiliation.
It would be fantastic if Labour, and other parties/candidates in Eastleigh, made use of the open Manifesto, but I would be surprised if anyone would want to campaign for all the ideas in it. Picking the ideas that line up best with each party/candidatesā values, would make sense. Perhaps prioritising those with the biggest potential impact, or which are the most deliverable.
Of course everyone is welcome to get involved! (Looks like itāll have two policies in the next few days! Might submit one of my own eventually!)
@JonDramas it would be great to share your ideas wherever people might see them. A social media post or forum post here is the simplest, on the party neutral Eastleigh Manifesto would be great (Iām obviously biased there!), and Iām sure @Josh_Constable and Labour would be interested as well.
@Sam4eastleigh it was just a suggestion of how parties or candidates might decide which policies to use from the Eastleigh Manifesto. Obviously it would be up to them to decide what they believe is deliverable.
Iām hoping that the Eastleigh Manifesto will be fairly aspirational, and perhaps include bigger ideas that might not immediately look realistic. Itās definitely not intended to be party political though.
